I noticed that...I'm just an outsider, but the outsiders usually can sit back and watch....and that's why I say that some groups need to focus on themselves more. They pick and choose what events to attend and the majority of their supporters aren't on that list of events. They will not support a social or riding club because they say they're "nothing", but this same club will fail to realize that their event had a whole bunch of those "nothings" there in the first place. They should quit focusing on the type of club and support everyone. If they were smart about it, they'd be well liked, popular, and it would also probably increase the number of people wanting to join. That's because the main reason why a club will dislike another club is because of this.